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30th June '10.
Nicolas asks what we think about this pottery shabti he bought.
Just under 200 mm.
Came with a certificate which states that it is Ramesside, 19th/20th dynasty and renders the inscription as Ramses-Em-Cha.
Though I am informed that the certificate is not by the seller/dealer but comes from an academic and someone who one might reasonably expect to know about shabtis, I must say that there are aspects which trouble me.
What do others think?
Have just recceived a copy of the COA. This is from it. I don't intend showing the whole COA in order to preserve the privacy of the author.
30th June '10
Yes, it is a new fake. Not for showing on the website why it is wrong , this will only educate the fakers.
I can not remember an shabti for 19/20th item painted in this way.
I agree with Dik, don't want to give help to fakers but there is something wrong in the face area; which is characteristic of much much later.
Also there is a certain matter of colour of certain parts which is not impossible but it is very rare.
I don't trust this item. To many things that does not fit.
I have just discovered that there have been at least five such pieces, varying in size from 16cm to 20cm. All with slight differences but the same inscription. The seller actually sold one, at 17.5cm on ebay.
Identity of seller deliberately obscurred while negotiations go on for it's return and refund.
Hiya, I recognize the German language certificate and the layout. There will , if I am correct, be an email address there with the certificate issuers details. He should be contacted to ascertain how certain he is.
I agree; it is not good. Lots wrong there.
From Jean again
Now I see number two ; these are fakes!
Useful to look at some genuine 19th and 20th dynasty shabtis and compare.
Here are some in various materials.
They illustrate the prevailing stylistic features.
I don't want to comment in any detail. But think about what special features are normally found on shabtis of this period; in pottery as distinct from wood or polychrome faience.
And where does one see eyes like these?
Even more instructive, is think, putting one of these into the picture.
They scream fake!
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