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YOU ARE HERE:>>REAL or FAKE>>Is ths genuine, section 5, page 2

From Julian.

16th March 09

This faience amulet.

Sekhmet?

74mm.

Much broken and repaired.

Is it genuine?

The form of the face troubles me. Look at how square and short the face is in profile compared to the more usual way Sekhmet is done in faience with a protruding jawline.

A few examples of a less protruding jawline.

From Niek

Fake to me, but I am not an expert on amulets

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From David L

Sometimes Mahes figures as opposed to Sekhmet have shorter faces.

However this figure appears to represent Sekhmet from the pose and the scepter.  

In Addition  the surface does not look convincing in the Picture. How is it in real life?

From  Sue

This is fake, but a good one.  I have handled this style of faience awhile back, same colour, same texture. 

 This style of amulet was quite prevalent in the 1970's and started out life as high quality souvenirs. 

Stylistically, I agree with you completely Bron, the face is too square lacking the elongation and downward turn, the feet are disproportionally large. 

Also, is there a loop for attachment?  The photos suggest this is also missing.

  From Angie

18th March 09

I am not an expert on amulets, but it looks fake to me.  The cracks all over really don't sit well with me.  The look of the face and feet don't look right either.

Yes, I agree on those points.

No attachment loop but pierced through the back pillar.

 From John

24th April 09

John asks if it is possible to tell from these pics taken on his mobile phone  if these are genuine or fake.

I think this is a good example of the fact that whereas one cannot say for certain from a photo alone that something is genuine, one can often tell from even a bad photo that something is a fake.

This website, "The Fake Busters" gives one a good idea what Egyptian artifacts don't look like.

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From John

So, if I well understand, the best way to detect a fake is to know if the style really exist. I thought there was a way to detect fake artefact only by seeing patina, material or else...

So, as for you, this style doesn't exist in old Egypt? Couldn't be Phoenician or other civilization?

To be honest with you, I'm a little amazed that those artefacts would be some fakes...

Apparently these objects were "excavated"  from the ground!

I can only assume that they were put into the ground a little while before they were then dug out again! This used to happen in Egypt. Someone would take visitors to a site and tell them it was a good place to dig for antiquities .....and hey presto, look what we found!!

Other opinions would be very interesting to know of.

From Tarquin

21st May 09

I agree that stylistically they don't look anything like ancient Egyptian
sculptures that we know. I can't imagine that they could be from any other
civilisation - certainly not Phoenician as suggested.

From David K

What do I think?  Exactly the same as you, Bron.

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The  particular trick of the fraudster burying  some fakes in the ground and then leading an usnsuspecting collector to the spot and encouraging him to dig a bit  is one of the many ploys mentioned  in this book first published in 1912. There's no such thing as a new trick! Fakery of Egyptian antiquities is nothing new.

Wakeling's classic introduction to Egyptian archaeological forgeries is filled with anecdotes, descriptions, and reference images. First published in 1912, the text provides an overview of common fake Egyptian artifacts and the methods used to create them. This reprint includes the color plates.

You can get it through amazon and many other booksellers.

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